Superstol Must Haves and Could do without
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Superstol Must Haves and Could do without
Does anyone have opinion or insight into the options available for the Superstol?
I'm sure some of this is preference however it seems to me an oil door is a no-brainer But what about things like a rear access door, rear windows, or even VG's?
And are the tanks all aluminum now? I've seen with my own eyes the result of debris left in tank from carbon fiber manufacturing process on a different plane. It was a bear to get it all out.
I'm sure some of this is preference however it seems to me an oil door is a no-brainer But what about things like a rear access door, rear windows, or even VG's?
And are the tanks all aluminum now? I've seen with my own eyes the result of debris left in tank from carbon fiber manufacturing process on a different plane. It was a bear to get it all out.
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Re: Superstol Must Haves and Could do without
Just my 2 cents
VGs are a must - but I bought my own
Delux interior weighs too much
Beringer brakes and wheels are awesome! But expensive!
Airfoil tail is a must
Rear bagage door- Yes - unless your arms are 3’ long
Tundra lite tail wheel - a must
Oil door - of course
First rule of STOL
If it doesnt add performance or utility - it weighs too much
The tanks are aluminum now
VGs are a must - but I bought my own
Delux interior weighs too much
Beringer brakes and wheels are awesome! But expensive!
Airfoil tail is a must
Rear bagage door- Yes - unless your arms are 3’ long
Tundra lite tail wheel - a must
Oil door - of course
First rule of STOL
If it doesnt add performance or utility - it weighs too much
The tanks are aluminum now
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Goal: 15mph no wind
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Goal: 15mph no wind
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Re: Superstol Must Haves and Could do without
What is the benefit of the airfoil tail ? I don't see any supercubs with the airfoil tail, but they all have a trimable stab. Without the whole stab having the ability to move I can't see any benefit except some slightly less drag at cruise when the elevator is mostly in line with the stab. But the tundra tires must wipe out any possible drag benefits of the stab airfoil. Does the airfoil stab improve elevator authority? I'd love to fly one with and without to see the difference.
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Re: Superstol Must Haves and Could do without
Yes more authority
Tail wont stall - as easy
Tail wont stall - as easy
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Goal: 15mph no wind
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Goal: 15mph no wind
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Re: Superstol Must Haves and Could do without
Thanks BDA
bought your own from where might I ask? and for what reason?
Any pics of the airfoil tail?
bought your own from where might I ask? and for what reason?
Any pics of the airfoil tail?
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Re: Superstol Must Haves and Could do without
I bought the Stol speed VGs from Aircraft Spruce
Cause their salespitch was better
I like that they are removeable and flexible as I am not.
I have a picture of the factory airfoil stabilizer in my Oratex thread, I am modifying tho to be more like the ones Chris Wallen is makeing.
I can take specific pictures if you want.
Cause their salespitch was better
I like that they are removeable and flexible as I am not.
I have a picture of the factory airfoil stabilizer in my Oratex thread, I am modifying tho to be more like the ones Chris Wallen is makeing.
I can take specific pictures if you want.
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Wing extensions,Symetrical Airfoil tail ribs (NACA 21)
Mods in progress: Heavier struts, Double slotted flaps
Goal: 15mph no wind
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Mods in progress: Heavier struts, Double slotted flaps
Goal: 15mph no wind
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Re: Superstol Must Haves and Could do without
I see a lot of options for VG's on AS.
I'm really curious what the salesman said to convince you and which specific VG's you opted for?
This may be a stupid question but are you just modifying the factory tail?
I'm really curious what the salesman said to convince you and which specific VG's you opted for?
This may be a stupid question but are you just modifying the factory tail?
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Re: Superstol Must Haves and Could do without
Yes, modify factory tail
Go to the Stolspeed website for the pitch.
All of the objective tests I have read say that there is very little noticable difference between different VGs (that are the same size and same placement)
But
There is a drag difference
Go to the Stolspeed website for the pitch.
All of the objective tests I have read say that there is very little noticable difference between different VGs (that are the same size and same placement)
But
There is a drag difference
SuperStol XL Alaskan With Titan 340
N331AK. Shawn Taplin
Wing extensions,Symetrical Airfoil tail ribs (NACA 21)
Mods in progress: Heavier struts, Double slotted flaps
Goal: 15mph no wind
N331AK. Shawn Taplin
Wing extensions,Symetrical Airfoil tail ribs (NACA 21)
Mods in progress: Heavier struts, Double slotted flaps
Goal: 15mph no wind
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Re: Superstol Must Haves and Could do without
This is an excellent question for anyone considering a build. My thoughts.
1. Baggage door is a must. I've told people over and over how much I love mine. I would even consider building one without a baggage door.
2. If you can stomach the price on the Beringer wheels and brakes absolutely do it. My Matcos are ok but I've flown the Beringers and they are amazing.
3. VGs without question.
4. I've heard enough good things about the flying tail I'd probably go that way as well.
The single most important thing is to build one. I'm still in love with my airplane, one of the best decisions of my life so far.
1. Baggage door is a must. I've told people over and over how much I love mine. I would even consider building one without a baggage door.
2. If you can stomach the price on the Beringer wheels and brakes absolutely do it. My Matcos are ok but I've flown the Beringers and they are amazing.
3. VGs without question.
4. I've heard enough good things about the flying tail I'd probably go that way as well.
The single most important thing is to build one. I'm still in love with my airplane, one of the best decisions of my life so far.
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Re: Superstol Must Haves and Could do without
Cool videos on the STOLSPEED website, so the plus is soft and flexible easily applied/removable. Got it.
Interesting info there on a thermostat mod for the 912. Interesting as I tried the tape over radiator method last year. Worked great until a warm day snuck up on me and I had a coolant overflow on a climbout. I'll never do that again!
I'd really like to get more info on the tail airfoil mod. Can someone point me in the right direction?
I'm going to look into the Beringer brakes....
Interesting info there on a thermostat mod for the 912. Interesting as I tried the tape over radiator method last year. Worked great until a warm day snuck up on me and I had a coolant overflow on a climbout. I'll never do that again!
I'd really like to get more info on the tail airfoil mod. Can someone point me in the right direction?
I'm going to look into the Beringer brakes....
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Re: Superstol Must Haves and Could do without
The Thermostasis seems to be the most commonly used thermostat. http://oilthermostats.com/aircraft/EchoWhiskey wrote:Interesting info there on a thermostat mod for the 912.
It's available direct, or through Aircraft Spruce, or with your hoses if they're done by Aircraft Specialty (http://www.aircraftspecialty.com/kitpla ... hoses.html) or TSFlightlines (https://tsflightlines.com/).
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Re: Superstol Must Haves and Could do without
For tail mod look up Chris Wallen Aircraft on Facebook
Or give me a call
907-394-9344
I plotted lifesize symetrical ribs in both NACA008 and 012, and made some aluminun “hammered” ribs, but Chris’ arched tubing ribs are much better.
The factory airfoil is very small on the top and large on the bottom, and not enough ribs in my opinion.
Or give me a call
907-394-9344
I plotted lifesize symetrical ribs in both NACA008 and 012, and made some aluminun “hammered” ribs, but Chris’ arched tubing ribs are much better.
The factory airfoil is very small on the top and large on the bottom, and not enough ribs in my opinion.
SuperStol XL Alaskan With Titan 340
N331AK. Shawn Taplin
Wing extensions,Symetrical Airfoil tail ribs (NACA 21)
Mods in progress: Heavier struts, Double slotted flaps
Goal: 15mph no wind
N331AK. Shawn Taplin
Wing extensions,Symetrical Airfoil tail ribs (NACA 21)
Mods in progress: Heavier struts, Double slotted flaps
Goal: 15mph no wind
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Re: Superstol Must Haves and Could do without
Just curious what makes the Beringer brakes better? aren't they both double calipers? The Matco's look lighter. They are a lot more money. Just curious.
Thanks
Thanks
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Re: Superstol Must Haves and Could do without
I've had the same thought. Steve Henry switched; But is the price worth it for us non-competitors?
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Buc
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Re: Superstol Must Haves and Could do without
I opted for them on my build. Everyone I spoke with that has flown with them said they are much better than the Matcos. No specifics given other than greater stopping power. Maybe some that have them and can speak directly to the "betterness" of them, will chime in...
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